I just love banning stuff!
DL Foster is the first, and I humbley second the motion, to ban the H-word!
Time to ban the H-word
I want to be the first to go on record demanding the banning of H-word. The H-word is infamously the ugliest social slur ever created. The disgusting tone and the arrogant elitism behind it has no place in our language.
People, its time to ban use of the word "homophobe".
Bernard Chapin, a Chicago writer noted:
One can be called a homophobe nowadays due to asking questions like, “So what exactly is the point of this parade?” or “What are you guys proud of here?” Just by asking a few questions (of which there are no easy answers) one can receive the same generic label that was applied to the vile murderers of Matthew Shepard. It has been my personal experience that merely disagreeing with some of the more vehement gay activists results in one quickly being grouped into an axis of hate. It doesn’t seem to matter what the specifics of the argument happen to be as, regardless of what you say, they’ll trolley out the same stale, cookie-cutter, accusation of homophobia. Perhaps if they changed the name of their insult to “gaytotalitarianaphobe” there might be some merit to their claims."
posted by Mark @ 12/07/2006 04:49:00 PM
42 comments
42 Comments:
Oh please. Last time i checked, conservatives claim we use the word more 5 times more than we actually do. However, now that you mention, and when you have to make remarks that try to blame gay people for everything, from anorexia to child molestation to disease, those are homophobic remarks, because they were made only in actual ignorance of gay people altogether, making you automatically to connect them with anything negative.
Last time i checked, conservatives claim we use the word more 5 times more than we actually do
ROTFLMAO! thanks Chase aka josiah! I needed that laugh. Since your a man who likes peer reviewed studies, care to back that up boy?
you have to make remarks that try to blame gay people for everything, from anorexia to child molestation to disease,
and yes boy, I would also like evidence of such as well. make something up if you have to.
I will remind you again Chase aka josiah, many people will indeed embrace and celebrate evil, sin, and wrong. If you think once they do it STOPS there, you know nothing about Satan and Christ's work. Making you Chase, 'automatically' not a follower of the one who died for His will to be done, and not your own.
Ha ha ha ha haaaa!
“gaytotalitarianaphobe”
We now, officially, have a come-back term for those who would label us "homophobes!"
I love it!
It's so accurately descriptive, too!
Christine
P.S. If Stephen W. comes over here he's bound to scold me again! He doesn't like buzzwords like these directed at people, even when the terms I use fit the bill exactly! Oh well...such is life!
Do I have to quote you from DL's blog, for the anorexia, Mark? And you can look right on your blog for the other two.
Last time I checked, they didn't do a study on it. I don't think you really could. Seriously though, look at a gay blog, check how many times a person is called homophobic. Then check how many times the word is claimed to have been used against Christians.
Also, considering that you LOVE phrases such as godless, I think we could start using a catchphrase to sum you up. As they say, we'll stop telling the truth about conservatives if they stop telling lies about liberals.
Also, didn't DL pretty much rip his article off an old one in Alain's newsletter?
*grins* most people don't actually qualify as homophobic, this is because most people don't actually have an obsessive, destructive, all-consuming fascination with homosexuality.
Do I have to quote you from DL's blog, for the anorexia, Mark?
Please do.
And you can look right on your blog for the other two.
What's wrong? You can't do it yourself? or perhaps you in reality have nothing to offer? and that sums up your comments chase.
"Gay men make up the top leaders in the fashion industry. They like thin women who are fashioned into looking like young boys. Fact, not a generalization."
Does this quote imply anything for you, considering the article you were replying too?
And no, Mark, it's not that I couldn't find it, I' rather not trudge through hours of reading our past drivel, that's all.
If you define homophobia as an obsessive, destructive, all-consuming fascination with homosexuality, many gay people would qualify...
Just because someone questions or disagrees with this issue, it doesn't mean they have a phobia. A phobia is am irrational fear. I have no irrational fear of gays (or any fear whatsoever) but I disagree with their lifestyle. This means I'm using my right to be free. Free to agree or disagree with whomever I chose. Disagreement does not make a phobia.
Let's ban the word "faggot" instead.
It's infinately more harmful.
There is a made for TV movie being hyped by A&E called "Wedding Wars". What I want to know, is why homosexuals don't get all ticked off over the stereotypes of even pro-gay propaganda? ("pro-gay propaganda" is hardly the right word, but I couldn't think of a better one, so don't pounce on me)The whole movie seems to imply that if all gays went on strike, all the hair dressers and wedding planners would be on strike, and we couldn't survive. I know plently of homosexuals, and none of them have jobs like that, nor do any of them act like that.
I've been called both a faggot and a homophobe at different times in my life. While being called either name was initially disturbing, I eventually developed a thick skin and "got over it." I don't favor the banning of either term (it's like covering the sky with your hand), but I believe that people who use these terms are condemning themselves as ignorant, and worse, separated from God.
With those preliminaries aside, I feel that the use of the word "homophobe" is more pernicious than the use of the term "faggot." While "faggot" is intended to make the victim feel bad about him or herself, it does not have the intention of further drawing the victim into sin (or out of sin, for that matter). It is an act of cruelty.
"Homophobe," on the other hand, is an attempt at social manipulation, intended to tempt those who believe that homosexual behavior is sinful or unnatural to change those beliefs in order to meet the approval of the name-caller. In particular, it is being used to draw people away from the word of God and towards the approval of sinful activity. It harms not only the person who is tempted (and yields), but also those who continue on in their sin because effective witness was silenced.
People who use both words will have to answer to God, but the person who steers people away from God and into sin will have more to answer for. "It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come! It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones." Luke 17:1-2.
I'm sorry, but considering you want to ban marriage from "gayness," stop anyone gay from teaching your children, and stop any laws that might curb discrimination against gay people, it's clear conservatives want to "defend" against gay people. If you weren't afraid or at least experiencing some malice towards ga people or homosexuality in itself, you wouldn't have a want to "defend" against it. From dictionary.com:
ho·mo·pho·bi·a /ˌhoʊməˈfoʊbiə/ Pronunciation[hoh-muh-foh-bee-uh]
–noun
unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality.
Arguably, you could say your not unreasonable in your fear. Considering whether it's unreasonable is a matter of opinion, however, the word still seems appropriate for use.
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Homosexuality is an abomination to God. THAT says it all. But for clarification:
They do really dirty things!
Debra...
www.InformingChristians.com
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Two people of the same gender cannot be married because that is not what marriage is.
And it is a parent's rights to have only those who the parents wish to teach their children, teach them. Parents do not have children in order to give a teacher a job. duhh... How arrogant to think otherwise.
Finally, everyone has a right to discriminate against whom they wish to. This is America.
Debra...
I agree! Ban the word 'homophobe.' More accurate would be 'homohater.'
God hates divorce, but I still haven't seen any of you fight as hard against (or at all, for that matter) divorce as you do against gays and lesbians. THAT says something about you, doesn't it Debra?
And why is it that DL Foster calls anyone who uses their brain an elitist? What does that make him??
amen phil!
Debra,
The bible also advocates stoning gays...do you agree with that also or do you simply cherry-pick your bible verses to suite your rhetoric.
Also, for the record, straight people do really dirty things too. So what's your point?
The bible also advocates stoning gays...do you agree with that also or do you simply cherry-pick your bible verses to suite your rhetoric.
john, no the Bible does not. The wages of sin are death. Nothing has changed.
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1) I have yet to hear of divorced people marching in the streets or demanding special rights. Nor do divorced people place people in public schools for after school programs to bus kids into the city to do dirt things behind buildings with them. And I have never seen a book in grade schools teaching children that it is okay that little Bobby's mommy is sleeping with Sally's daddy. If they ever do this sort of thing, I will be first in line to seek to stop them.
2) The world was under the dispensation of the Law, when homosexuals were said to be stoned. One needs to realize that although man has sought to remove God from government, God is still the boss and did hand down the rules of how govern the land and how to handle bad people. Today, many people think if they simply pretend that God does not exist in the governing of the affairs of man, that God will just go away--well, that is just not going to happen. (However, they can go to hell some day and be away from God, themselves. And God has been known to turn his face away from a bad nation, then the nation falls.)
Nonetheless, we are now in the day of Grace. And we are not to kill people for such wicked behavior, but rather remove them from among us. (And remember, they could come to be saved and then they would no longer be that wicked person.)
3) The marriage bed is undefiled. We can do what we want, within true sexual and loving affectionate acts. But putting something in a rectum is not a true sexual act--it is counterfeit sex, it is queer, stupid, abusive and dangerous.
Debra...
www.InformingChristians.com
O.K. Debra, but what about what God said--He hates divorce. That was my point. He hates divorce--but you don't. God says homosexuality is an abomination--you say it is an abomination. How about going after divorcees like you go after gays and lesbians? You really shouldn't pick and choose what you want to go after and what you don't if you are really following God's word.
How about going after divorcees like you go after gays and lesbians?
Did Debra not explain herself quite well by stating, and I quote, I have yet to hear of divorced people marching in the streets or demanding special rights. Nor do divorced people place people in public schools for after school programs to bus kids into the city to do dirt things behind buildings with them. And I have never seen a book in grade schools teaching children that it is okay that little Bobby's mommy is sleeping with Sally's daddy. If they ever do this sort of thing, I will be first in line to seek to stop them.
"The marriage bed is undefiled. We can do what we want, within true sexual and loving affectionate acts. But putting something in a rectum is not a true sexual act--it is counterfeit sex, it is queer, stupid, abusive and dangerous."
Sorry Debra...but that's just your spin...I'm quite sure there are plenty of married folks out there that practice anal sex and all of those other "dirty things" in an undefiled marriage bed. I'm also sure that if they are enjoying themselves and are mutualluy consenual that it is most certainly not "counterfeit, queer, stupid, abusive and dangerous."
"but I still haven't seen any of you fight as hard against (or at all, for that matter) divorce as you do against gays and lesbians."
And? How does this pitiful diversion detract from the truth that God finds homosexuality to be an abomination? It doesn't.
"O.K. Debra, but what about what God said--He hates divorce. That was my point. He hates divorce--but you don't."
You can now point to where Debra said or demonstrated that she didn't hate divorce. You made it up.
"You really shouldn't pick and choose what you want to go after and what you don't if you are really following God's word."
Your repeated attempt at diverting the issue is noted. Every site administrator has his/her particular issue that hits a button. My site deals with abortion more than anything else. (a lot of politics and global affairs) You're trying to form an argument around the idea that more blog space is being used by Mark to discuss homosexuality, which is ridiculous. Try sticking to the issue.
john,
I am also quite sure there are many married people that remain outside God's sexual boundaries. I am glad you able to pick up on that, but your own spin is to say it's still ok with God. There you are wrong. Perhaps a visist to the Doctors office will confirm ones anus is not a sexual playground.
Highboy--God said He hates divorce. Therefore Debra and yourself should be out there fighting against divorcees. If you would read my post, I also said that: "God says homosexuality is an abomination--you say it is an abomination." That is far from being 'a pitiful diversion.' My point is that you and others pick what groups of people you want to attack, despite the fact that God hated divorce and calls homosexuality an abomination. If you really believed the bible, you would be attacking both groups together instead of picking and choosing.
And are you smoking crack (as Mark would say!)? I am not trying to cause Mark to use more space to discuss homosexuality! Look at his original post, and then look at all the comments by others before me. Get a grip! And speaking of diversion, why don't you give us your thoughts on divorce?
I am not sure where anyone(Kevin) is getting the idea God hates divorce? God's word is clear, a marriage is a promise to God! One should take such a promise seriously.
..and Kevin, you knew I would bring this up at some point. Since you believe all opinions are of equal value, why contribute to any discussion trying to accomplish the exact opposite?
Mark--see Malachi 2:16 on what God has to think about divorce. The New King James Version says: "For the LORD God of Israel says that He hates divorce..."
I do believe that all opinions are of equal value and should be able to be expressed as such. I think what others have to say is of equal value to what I have to say and no one should be stifled or edited out or just left out because someone else disagrees. I believe in free speech. That does not mean that I have to agree with what is said. I believe that what you and Debra and Highboy all say are of equal value to what I have to say and I am fully willing to listen and even change my mind if you can convince me. But thinking they are of equal value and disagreeing with them are two different things. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the context that you were referring to when I said this is that if a school allows praying christian parents in, then they should allow praying Muslim/Jewish/Buddhist parents in as well. For me all sets of praying parents and what they have to say are of equal value.
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Liars. They are all liars. I was so clear with what I said. When they cannot win, which they never can, they simply lie. They lie about God and they lie about us. They have no shame.
Debra...
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Debra, could you be a bit more clear? Who is lying? What exactly is being lied about? Mal. 2:16 is pretty clear...
You don't seem to understand what I said. You fight tooth and nail against anything gay and lesbian, because God says it is an abomination, and yet you do not fight tooth and nail against those who are divorced or who are divorcing, even though God hates divorce. Why is that?
You seem to think that divorced people are not marching in the streets for their 'special' rights, and that might be literally true (divorced men certainly march in the streets in England and have invaded parliament to get attention), but divorced people are always fighting for property rights, for the rights of their children (esp. the fathers) and fighting against their ex or soon-to-be ex in court and in the public eye for money. There are also lots of children's books about divorced parents and making it o.k. to be a kid with divorced parents. Yet God hates divorce.
Hehehe...maybe we should send all the divorcees to the island that Debra wants to send the gays to.
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"Therefore Debra and yourself should be out there fighting against divorcees."
Who said we're not? Are you attempting to characterize what we do/don't do simply by the comments we make on a single blog?
"My point is that you and others pick what groups of people you want to attack, despite the fact that God hated divorce and calls homosexuality an abomination."
No, we don't pick and choose, you made that up, and you are a liar. I have my own blog, and I don't "pick and choose" which groups to attack. As a matter of fact, I don't deal a whole lot with either issue on my blog. As I said, its a pitiful and now dishonest diversion.
"And speaking of diversion, why don't you give us your thoughts on divorce?"
You've already given it: God hates divorce. I stick with God. Any more diversions?
"You fight tooth and nail against anything gay and lesbian, because God says it is an abomination, and yet you do not fight tooth and nail against those who are divorced or who are divorcing, even though God hates divorce."
That would probably be the lie she is talking about genius.
Kevin,
Since same sex marriages are not a marriage, I have to wonder why I must "hate" divorce on an equal basis as celebrating the acts of homosexuality? For instance; If my wife was having sex with my son, divorce her I would, and God would be no less hate filled, so to speak.
God does not hate anything but sin! His wrath is as real as His grace. God hates a broken marriage (divorce) because we break our promise to Him favoring our own disobedience (sin) over His will.
ebsfwan
you would do well to read what I wrote above to kevin as well.
hehehe is a border line wussified comment. Please refer to my disclaimer if you want your comments added. Your a smart person and I assume a Male. Act like a man and loose the hehehe please. Someone may be tempted to call you a homo or worse. ;)
try lol or LOL etc..
thanks for your support!
Sorry Mark, in Massachusetts gay marriage is legally a marriage. I know it doesn't agree with what you call a marriage, but that's what it is. And I didn't say anyone had to hate divorce--I quoted Malachai, and that only said what God had to say about it. I did say that if God calls one thing an abomination and people then make laws against the abomination according to the word of God, then if God hates divorce, then those people should also be making laws against what God hates.
Highboy--I don't think you know what the word 'diversion' really means, so if I were you, I would stop using it. And name-calling won't help your cause either, although I will accept the title of 'genius' happily--or is that gayly?
Mark--many people show laughter in different ways, and online it is even harder. hehehehe, in my book, is a chuckle, while LOL is a laugh. Humor is still there in both. It has nothing to do with being a homo or a hetero, nor should adults call other people names, espcially if they are not speaking face to face. Men do chuckle, btw. But then again, it is your blog. :)
(and please don't tell me that the smiley face is wussified too. I would be crushed...)
Sorry Mark, in Massachusetts gay marriage is legally a marriage.
Technically, no it is not. There is still one legal lump to cross I believe in the legislature.
Regardless, MA law will never assure me legally an elephant is now a deisel engine. Nor will it on Marriage.
I would be crushed
Kevin, I like you somewhat, but that is again border line wussification language. :)
Mark, last time I checked, God only allowed men to divorce, and only then if the wife commited adultry. (Matthew 19 3-9) In other words, if your wife was a serial killer who hid the bodies under our swimming pool, oh, sure, you could turn her in, but she's still your wife. That is, of course, if you don't take the idea of extenuating circumstances, historical context, or even (gasp!) translation. Of course, you believe interpretation f the bible can be done infallibly without looking into an of those three.
I don't really care if you call me a homo Mark. I'll use whatever language I see fit. You don't have to publish my comments if you don't want to. It's your blog. I won't lose any sleep over it.
I was being sarcastic ebsfwan. I enjoy your comments for the most part.
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