Friday, August 10, 2007

When the bishops mock Christ

Source: Virginia Episcopalian, July 2007, Volume 116, Number 4, page 6.

Asked to explain her belief about the “uniqueness of Jesus” for salvation, Bishop Jefferts Schori said that Jesus died both for the salvation of individuals and “for the salvation of the world.” The difficulty, she said, is that she does not know the “mechanism” by which God saves the whole world. Given that lack of knowledge, it would be “idolatry” for her to say how God deals with those “who don’t profess to be Christians.” For the Presiding Bishop, it is more important to begin with the mystery of God, and what we admit we cannot say for certain about that mystery, than what we think we can affirm about God. After two hours, and no more questions, a conversation notable for its honesty and graciousness was finished.

Well isn't this special, there is no Hell. Christ's work on the cross saves all people, including those "who don't profess to be Christians". To suggest otherwise would be "idolatry" according to the Bishop. Instead of beginning with what she calls the 'mystery' of God and starting there, she should start with the word of God and what He does teach us. That way she would not have to make stuff up as she goes along. She desires all people to go to heaven, so it must be true. She just dosen't know how or what 'mechanism' is used in this fairy tale of her own making. Perhaps starting with the real truth in God's holy word would be too uncomfortable for someone more interested in bringing glory to the flesh and not God.

Jefferts-Schori says she views salvation as the healing of all Creation through holy living. "I understand salvation as being about the healing of the whole creation. Your part and my part in that is about holy living," she offered. "As Christians we understand [salvation] as relationship with God in Jesus, but that does not mean that we're expected to judge other people's own commitments."

Salvation is ..."the healing of all creation through holy living"?

Ephesians 2: 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.

Romans 4: 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God.

Is there any among us who live holy and righteous before our most Holy God? The answer is no, not one. Without Christ you are dead. Secondly if her absurd premise is true, (healing all of creation) why did God require animal sacrifices? and our Lord Jesus Christ being the Final sacrifice for sin?

In John 14:6, Jesus -- in responding to a question posed by the disciple Thomas -- said: "I am the Way and the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me." But Jefferts-Schori says she disagrees with the idea that salvation comes only through trusting in Jesus Christ. "It's this sense that one person can have the fullness of truth in him or herself, rather than understanding that truth is -- like God -- more than any one person can encompass," stated the soon-to-be ECUSA leader.

She disagrees with the word of God and says our truths come from within. Sounds like an immature teenager to me, not a mature follower of Christ. Unfortunately she has made herself the image of God and remains anti-Christ, no matter how much authority men have given her.


Kevin said...

"Ephesians 2: 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast."

Well, I wonder what Paul would have to say about:

James 2:14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if you say you have faith but do not have works? Can faith save you?2:15 If a brother or sister is naked and lacks daily food,2:16 and one of you says to them, "Go in peace; keep warm and eat your fill," and yet you do not supply their bodily needs, what is the good of that?2:17 So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead."

Mark said...

James would say the same exact same thing as Paul, you cannot earn your salvation, it is a gift. James is telling us saving faith is NOT a mere intellectual exercise void of obedience to Christ (ie. acts of kindness and compassion).

In addition anyone can say (James 2:14-17) to have faith. Just like I can say I have compassion but without acts, how am I conforming to God's word? Indeed there are phony folks walking around. Some even have titles of bishop and Dr. :)

Anonymous said...

John 3:18, is pretty clear on what happens to those who do not believe on the name of Jesus:

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Kevin said...

Mark, I don't quite understand the smiley face after your comment that there are some people with titles like Dr. that are phony. Maybe you could translate for me exactly what that means so there is no confusion.

Mark said...

I had the honor for three years a former Marine, Vietnam vet who had seen combat many times as my academic college counslor with a (Phd). He told me my senior year before graduation, "Mark, some of the most ignorant folks you will encounter in life, will have Phd's' ". For what ever reason at that time, I thought I needed one (Phd) to be "right". I was wrong. So are many bishops, Phd's, etc..

Was I calling you personally a phony? no. I think you really believe what is not "right", and maintaining that heart felt view, could cost you eternal life with God. That's why I pray for you. You once said something to me awhile back, perhaps in passing, that I hang on to for hope. God will remind you again of what you said, that I am sure. I pray when He does, you respond to Him as Lord.